I think I have a real phobia about going to the gyn. I've been putting it off, and putting it off. I haven't had a pap since I was pg with my last baby, and I didn't even go in for my 6 week check. Every time I have pain, I tell myself I'm going to make an appointment and then when the pain goes away I just start thinking it won't happen again.

So I made myself call, it took everything I had, I'm still shaking. I dialed, then my phone went dead. Then I about talked myself out of it because afterall, if the phone went dead it must not be meant to be that I go in yet. Okay, so I didn't want to be chicken and I really do want to know what causes the pains that I have. I got the other phone and dialed again.

I asked how long it takes to get an appointment, she said it doesn't normally take too long, maybe a couple of weeks. But... right now, he's out of the country until October. GEEZ. I'm trying to plan this appointment around bleeding times. AF is pretty much gone, barely a hint, but the mid cycle bleeding stuff can start as early as Monday, likely later in the week. How can I make an appointment in October now? I can't know when it'll be okay and when it won't because things aren't so exact anymore.

I thought about calling the other OB/GYN in town but I've met her a few times at births of other ladies I know and I didn't really care for her. AND... I'm afraid of getting the attitude about why do you want more children when you have so many garbage. I know my OB/GYN won't do that to me.

Any thoughts? I even thought about going to the city and not telling them about all of my babies but that would be fibbing. I guess I'm leaning towards waiting until October to make an appointment. GRRR.

Starting soy today, nervous I won't O on time taking less, but I really want to work with my body and not force it. I think it's safer that way. We'll see how it goes.

Thanks friends, Treva

Girl we could be writing each others posts. I posted more in detail on the updates thread but my doc is out of the country too, until the 27th of this month. You had bad pains last month, that's what I'm going through now (was yours after O?) you had the reoccurring AF, that's what I had too last cycle.
What in the heck???

Yes!!! After o I had 3 days of pain. O day I was up and down trying to function, 1dpo couldn't get up doubled over and called my dh home to help, 2 dpo I was up and Dow trying so hard. Even after that I felt rough, worn out from the pain. Shook up and scared because it was intense and I missed out on three days of my life. I remember o pains even up to 12 years ago, don't remember anything specific before then. I can't say it's from the soy, I had it almost as bad a few months ago. It scares me, I'm dreading it coming again. As for AF, I must have been bleeding to death (hypochondriac exaggeration). It's never gushed like that unless I just had a baby. I've added iron. Af did return after starting soy. I think there is a connection to heavier af and soy. One more strange symptom, my bbs got more tender after af came and still are on cd6. They usually get better after af.

Are you going to look for another dr? I looked in the phone book again tonight but there is only one other in town, I may check a nearby town. I am concerned.

Btw, I loved a tweak you did on the other site. The test was at an angle. Nice work girl!!!

Any symptoms yet?

Yes, I'm seriously considering getting another doctor. I really really liked the lady I seen yesterday, but she is a very sought after doctor in our small town and is never accepting new patients. I really do like our family doctor, it's just that he is ALWAYS gone. He is the only one in his office so when he is gone, the whole office is closed down.
It used to be he took time off here and there but anymore it's weeks and months at a time!! He does medical mission trips and that is wonderful but he needs to realize he has a commitment here too...to his patients.
I can't imagine if I ever do become pregnant how he could see me through a pregnancy when he is gone so much.
Wow, sounds like you and I had very similar situations with the pain. Was yours in your ovaries too? I can't really blame it on the soy because the first time was 2 months ago and I didn't take soy until the month after that. This time though, was by far more intense. It seems to only happen when I am ovulating from the right side. They did find a good sized cyst with some bleeding but don't think it was there two months ago when I had the first episode of pain.

Mostly sharp cramping, breathlessness, low back, between shoulder bladed, diaphragm. Pain on ovaries switched sides, seemed to stop switching and settled on the right. It still ached, a hard ache after tht. There must be something with your right ovary. I should check my notes last time it was super bad. I'm sure I would have noted. Our family dr is doing the same thing, but I don't go there for the female stuff. I've been seriously considering moving our entire family because I can't count on them to be there. Kup about your pain and cyst. Hurry up and get a bfp ao you don't have to worry about it any more.

Wow, sounds like you had it pretty bad with multiple symptoms. That almost sounds like Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome. I would definitely talk to your doctor about it, it can become dangerous. I would be concerned with the breathlessness and the referred pain in the shoulders and such. I can't remember, did you go to the doctor last time or was it your husband just threatening to make you go.
My pain was extreme this time but I didn't have any of those other symptoms you had, just the insane pain in my right ovary that I couldn't even stand up.
Be careful girl! Are you taking soy this cycle?

I need to look up ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome, can you get that from soy? I didn't go in and my dh threatened to take me in. I told him he could take me in if I passed out. I am taking soy now, tomorrow is my last day. I decided to take less, 80mg. But... I'm spacing it through the day and a couple of times I felt unsure if took it or not. I hope
to count them later, then I'll know but won't know when I messed up. Iput 4 in little cup today so I'd know. I'm a ditz!

Hi Ladies - Sorry you both are having problems. 10 - I agree with Corey it does kindof sound like ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome. I'm sure you can get this from taking soy since you can get it come taking clomid and soy is supposed to mimic clomid. This cycle seems to be better for me. AF wasn't that bad as far as flow but I did have alot of small clots and the cramps were about the same. Last cycle I felt horrible on my last day of taking soy but this cycle I was fine. Other than taking the hydrocodone for my sinus infection because I couldn't sleep. I'll never do that again... felt like i was getting mamjor hot flashes, sweaty and dizzy.

Wow it does sounds like both of your drs are out of the office quite often. You know you both are going to need a doctor that's around more when you get your BFP this month postive thinking I love my dr and the whole practice. IWhen I got laid off in July I thought I was going to have to switch drs because i went on my husbands insurance but was lucky that they accepted that insurance. I was SOOOO happy! I know last year when i had the m/c i was at the beach and scared to death. They were so nice to me and my DH and told us exactly what we needed to do and just took the extra time to check on us and comfort us.

well nothing really going on here. I'm on cd8 and just waiting for DH is get home on Wednesday, then he's off all next week just when I need him to be Leaving for the beach Sunday-Wednesday so BD here we come! This last week had been kindof hard for me. I seems like that everybody i know that can get pregnant has gotton pregnant. Lately it's been a couple at church and now some friends of ours. I mean I'm happy for them and they will be the best parents ever but I can't seem to help feeling so down. It's hard when you want something so bad and everybody esle is getting it. I know that GOD will bless me with a child in HIS time and I have faith that he will. We've been thinking of signing up for foster/adoption thru out county. There's a chance that we can foster to adopt a child but they want you to become a foster parent first. I've had the application for about three months but I put it off when my mom got sick and had to have brain surgery in june. We can't afford IVF and adoption is around the same for all the agencies that we've looking into. We also quite looking because we we're tired of getting the whole "too old" and both of you don't have a "college degree" line. We just want a baby why would all that matter? I mean I know I'm getting older but I don't feel that I'm too old for a child just yet. Anyway sorry for the long post and thanks for just being here and letting me post. I know hubgby gets tired of it sometimes and he gets just as upset my I about it so I don't want to upset me anymore than I can.

Alisa, I can't say that I feel anything specifically that I would say is a side effect of the soy. Maybe there was another reason AF was heavier for me this time. I do notice some itchiness all over when I'm taking it, but it's not terrible. I'm getting over some sinus stuff too, but there is likely just something going around.
insurance but was lucky that they accepted that insurance. I was SOOOO happy! I know last year when i had the m/c i was at the beach and scared to death. They were so nice to me and my DH and told us exactly what we needed to do and just took the extra time to check on us and comfort us.

I was thinking about changing doctors for OB stuff anyway. I feel like my pregnancies are too high risk now for my area. My uterus has ruptured with my last two. My c/s scar is in the shape of a sideways T because my first emergency c/s was for a breech transverse STUCK baby. I had been laboring for 6 1/2 days and no one believed me because it was too early, blah. They believed me when my water broke. Anyway, I went from having babies at home to having this huge medical ordeal for our births and I don't like it at all, but I still think it's worth it. Our little hospital isn't equipped to handle my broken uterus or preemie babies.

Alisa, your dh gets home tomorrow. YAY!!! That's so exciting, bet you miss him. You're going to have such an awesome week. 11 days he's home, right? It always seems like when we're wanting to be pg most everyone around us comes up pg. It's really hard to deal with. I'm sorry Alisa. You'll be next and you can join their party.

I think that foster care is a great idea, or it seems like it anyway. I know people in our area who've done it and the babies are harder to come by. Then when you get attached they move the child. I know one lady who adopted two girls that way, it's great but she had a ton of heartache along the way. I don't know how it is in your state, our foster system here is not so wonderful.

You mentioned IVF, what is your diagnosis? I get soooo sick of that 'too old' stuff. It drives me crazy. My mom had her last baby at 46 so lets just not even think old yet. Did you do one of those FSH tests?

What does a college degree have to do with raising a happy healthy child? Oh BROTHER!!! That's crazy, there are so many wonderful parents out there that don't have college degrees. Geez, the rules really seem unfair.

Don't give up Alisa. I would love to watch you get your BFP!!! You deserve it.

Hugs, Treva